RAJAHUMUNDRY, 1ST PUBLIC TALK, 20TH NOVEMBER, 1949
REPORT - 'INDIA 1949-50, VERBATIM REPORTS (SECOND PART)'
Question: In order to have peace of mind?, must I not learn to control my
thoughts?
Krishnamurti: [....] My mind wanders. Why? I want to think about a picture,
a phrase, an idea, an image, and in thinking about it I see that my mind
has gone off to the railway or to something that happened yesterday. The
first thought has gone, and another has taken its place. Therefore I
examine every thought that arises. That is intelligent, isn't it? But you
make an effort to fix your thought on something. Why should you fix it? If
you are interested in the thought that comes, then it gives you its
significance. The wandering is not distraction - do not give it a name.
Follow the wandering, the distraction, find out why the mind has wandered;
pursue it, go into it fully. When the distraction is completely understood,
then that particular distraction is gone. When another comes, pursue it
also.
[....]
When the mind follows and understands every thought there is no
distraction, and then it is quiet. Only in freedom can the mind be silent.
When the mind is silent, not only the upper part, but fully; when it is
free from all values, from the pursuit of its own projections, then there
is no distraction; and only then reality comes into being.
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J. KRISHNAMURTI MADRAS 9TH GROUP DISCUSSION 29TH APRIL, 1948
BOOK - 'THE COLLECTED WORKS OF J.KRISHNAMURTI, VOL IV'
Krishnamurti: As long as there is a movement of memory, there cannot be any
regeneration.
[....]
I want to know every form of memory and I am watchful. When any thought
arises it is examined and its truth seen. Then that thought drop away.
There is no discipline, effort, struggle, involved in this.
Question: What happens when, in that state, there is a desire?
Krishnamurti: All desire is thought.
The understanding mind is denuding itself of all thoughts and there is also
the lengthening of the interval between thought and thought. What happens
in that interval? The interval has been experienced. When thought arises in
that interval, that thought is examined with greater quickness, anew. The
lengthening of the interval between two thoughts gives greater capacity to
deal with any thought that may arise in that interval. The experiencing of
this interval is what we are now considering. There is a vitality in this
interval. In this interval all effort has stopped; there is no choice, no
condemnation, no justification, and no identification; there is also no
interpretation
any kind.
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RAJAHUMUNDRY, 3RD PUBLIC TALK, 4TH DECEMBER, 1949.
REPORT - 'INDIA 1949-50, VERBATIM REPORTS (SECOND PART)'
Question: What exactly do you mean by meditation? Is it a process or a
state?
Krishnamurti: [....] But when the projector, the mediator, the self, is
completely absent, wholely ended, then there is silence which is not the
product of the mind. Meditation is that silence which comes into being when
the mediator and his processes are understood.
[....]
Therefore, only when the mind is completely silent, completely still,
tranquil, not projecting, not thinking - only then does the measureless
come into being.
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TALKS AND DIALOGUES SAANEN 1967
Meditation is to be aware of thought, of feeling, never to correct it,
never to say it is right or wrong, never to justify it, but just to watch
it and move with it. In that watching and moving with that thought, with
that feeling, you begin to understand and to be aware of the whole nature
of thought and feeling.
Silence comes when thought has understood its own beginning, the nature of
itself, how all thought is never free but always old. To see all this, to
see the movement of every thought, to understand it, to be aware of it, is
to come to that silence which is meditation, in which the `observer' never
is.
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BOMBAY, 14TH JANUARY, 1977. BOOK - 'EXPLORATION INTO INSIGHT'
Self-knowledge is not knowing oneself, but knowing every movement of
thought. Because the self is the thought, the image, the image of K and the
image of the `me.' So, watch every movement of thought, never letting one
thought go without realizing what it is. Try it. Do it and you will see
what takes place.
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6TH PUBLIC TALK, OJAI, 1977
So pursue each thought and therefore there is no contradiction, no
resistance about any thought. You've understood this? So then from that
arises awareness, to be aware, you are aware then of all the movement of
your thought. You've got it? Then out of that awareness comes attention.
[....]
Then in that attention, if you have gone that far, which is that you have
laid the foundation, that you are free from all the business of thought,
all the travails of thought, fear, agony, despair, that's the foundation.
That is, the content of your consciousness, which is put there by thought,
now is being emptied. You understand? It's being freed.
[....]
So meditation is the emptying of the content of consciousness, which is
consciousness. You're getting this? That is the meaning of, and the depth
of meditation, the emptying of all the content, which means - please listen
- thought coming to an end
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'OJAI 1949, VERBATIM REPORT'
But we can see that any action on the part of the mind to make itself come
to an end, is still a process of thought.